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	<title>Comments on: The submerged Sherman tank off Saipan</title>
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	<description>a Ruins Explorer and SF / Fantasy Author in Japan</description>
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		<title>By: RETIRED NAVY</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/08/the-submerged-sherman-tank-off-saipan/comment-page-1/#comment-42434</link>
		<dc:creator>RETIRED NAVY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My wife is from Garapan and loves the shots</description>
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		<title>By: Steve Hill</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/08/the-submerged-sherman-tank-off-saipan/comment-page-1/#comment-39871</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Hill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 20:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To MJG, i think you&#039;re making a mountain out of a molehill, are the British offended by the term &#039;Brits&#039;? Are the Australians offended by the term Aussies?
The Scottish &#039;Scots&#039;? American &#039;Yanks&#039;? The list goes on. The shortening of the countries name to describe the people is worldwide. Its totally unlike the &#039;n&#039; word which is a derogatory term to describe a persons race.
I&#039;m afraid to write an article about a tank used during WW2 when fighting the Japanese and expect the word &#039;Japs&#039; not to crop up is a bit of a tall order.
Lets just marvel at the excellent photos.
Steve Hill</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To MJG, i think you&#8217;re making a mountain out of a molehill, are the British offended by the term &#8216;Brits&#8217;? Are the Australians offended by the term Aussies?<br />
The Scottish &#8216;Scots&#8217;? American &#8216;Yanks&#8217;? The list goes on. The shortening of the countries name to describe the people is worldwide. Its totally unlike the &#8216;n&#8217; word which is a derogatory term to describe a persons race.<br />
I&#8217;m afraid to write an article about a tank used during WW2 when fighting the Japanese and expect the word &#8216;Japs&#8217; not to crop up is a bit of a tall order.<br />
Lets just marvel at the excellent photos.<br />
Steve Hill</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney J. Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/08/the-submerged-sherman-tank-off-saipan/comment-page-1/#comment-34917</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney J. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Genny&#039;s above post:  I have some good 1974 photos of  Saipan that I posted on LSP, ( www.largescaleplanes.com) that you can use free of charge for your presentation.  The LSP staff has been upgrading the site, thus my old story is on the home page.  I think it was re-posted on November 23rd.  Just look for it and my name.

RJW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Genny&#8217;s above post:  I have some good 1974 photos of  Saipan that I posted on LSP, ( <a href="http://www.largescaleplanes.com" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.largescaleplanes.com?referer=');">http://www.largescaleplanes.com</a>) that you can use free of charge for your presentation.  The LSP staff has been upgrading the site, thus my old story is on the home page.  I think it was re-posted on November 23rd.  Just look for it and my name.</p>
<p>RJW</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney J. Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/08/the-submerged-sherman-tank-off-saipan/comment-page-1/#comment-34916</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney J. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 23:17:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll make no more comments on your site.  The photos of the tank sure are nice.

Tofa Soifua.

RJW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll make no more comments on your site.  The photos of the tank sure are nice.</p>
<p>Tofa Soifua.</p>
<p>RJW</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney,

You make an argument that I can&#039;t agree with. You&#039;re right that I didn&#039;t live through the war, I wasn&#039;t brain-washed by that administration, but I don&#039;t think either of those excuse the use of an ethnic slur in anything other than quote marks as a historical reference. 

You didn&#039;t use it in quote marks, you used it in place of saying Japanese. For similar reasons it&#039;s not alright to use the N-word. 

If Japanese come by my site and see your comment using and defending the use of &#039;Japs&#039;, how do you think they will feel? I don&#039;t want that. They most likely didn&#039;t live through WW2 either, and won&#039;t understand it as anything other than a slur. 

I don&#039;t want to argue with you on this, as you say you&#039;re 80 and clearly have made up your mind. I just ask you not to use the word again on my site, unless as a quoted reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney,</p>
<p>You make an argument that I can&#8217;t agree with. You&#8217;re right that I didn&#8217;t live through the war, I wasn&#8217;t brain-washed by that administration, but I don&#8217;t think either of those excuse the use of an ethnic slur in anything other than quote marks as a historical reference. </p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t use it in quote marks, you used it in place of saying Japanese. For similar reasons it&#8217;s not alright to use the N-word. </p>
<p>If Japanese come by my site and see your comment using and defending the use of &#8216;Japs&#8217;, how do you think they will feel? I don&#8217;t want that. They most likely didn&#8217;t live through WW2 either, and won&#8217;t understand it as anything other than a slur. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to argue with you on this, as you say you&#8217;re 80 and clearly have made up your mind. I just ask you not to use the word again on my site, unless as a quoted reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodney J. Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/08/the-submerged-sherman-tank-off-saipan/comment-page-1/#comment-34578</link>
		<dc:creator>Rodney J. Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To: MJG

As to the word &quot;JAPS&quot; that I used in my story it will stand until I die and I am only 80 years old.

If you did not live during WW-II then you may not know that the American Government &quot;brain-washed&quot; us to the tune that the only good JAP was a dead JAP and the same went for the German&#039;s.  A good Nazi was a dead Nazi. Least you not forget the Italians.....

Our government repeated the same old story that they used in the 1800&#039;s and that was : The only good indian was a dead indian........just ask any of my Native American Indian relatives in South Dakota.

As a paper boy in 1941 our route manage got me out of bed at about ten p.m. on December 7, 1941 and said:  Here are some extra papers.  You have to go to your route right now and call out:  &quot;EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT-THE JAPS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR.&quot; From that day forward we were brained washed to hell and back.  The newspapers, radio and the weekly &quot;movie-tone&quot; news at our local movie theater show war movies.  When we saw dead G.I.&#039;s floating on the beaches of Tarawa and other islands, lots of people jumped out of their seats and called out......kill them all, and the same went when we saw G.I.&#039;s floating on the beaches of Normandy.  When we seen the civillians jump to their death at Suicide Cliffs on Saipan we cheered to no end.  Again: &quot;Kill all of them.&quot;

In 1949 my brother came home from occupied Japan and could speak Japanese fluent, so I learned the language.  In 1952 I met a &quot;Jap&quot; girl in a local night club in Akron, Ohio.  We started dating and we fell in love, but she had to go back to Japan and marry a man she never met as it was their custom.

During that time I realized that the American Government was a bunch of no good lier&#039;s.  Most all people on earth are good but we have some bad ones in all races.  

In 1973 I was still living in American, Samoa and I hired some fellow photographers from Los Angeles, CA; to work with me on another film project for PBS.  Later I found out that one of the young men was from Germany.  WOW........a Nazi.....His father was a submarine commander and survived the war. I overcame that hatred and we are still good friends today and we email often.

When the war was over I delivered papers and the headlines read: &quot;THE JAPS SURRENDER.&quot;

I just watched the invasion of Saipan on TV and seen a lady jump, and others coming out of caves.  One lady said that they were afraid of the G.I.&#039;s and that they would rather die than surrender.  Sounds like the Japanese were brain-washed to hell and back like the Americans.

This bull-crap is still going on over in the Middle-East.........I know as I was in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon.

In closing, I do not use the word when I speak of Japan today, but I do use it when I speak about WW-II.

Go live WW-II like I did then you will understand.

RJW
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To: MJG</p>
<p>As to the word &#8220;JAPS&#8221; that I used in my story it will stand until I die and I am only 80 years old.</p>
<p>If you did not live during WW-II then you may not know that the American Government &#8220;brain-washed&#8221; us to the tune that the only good JAP was a dead JAP and the same went for the German&#8217;s.  A good Nazi was a dead Nazi. Least you not forget the Italians&#8230;..</p>
<p>Our government repeated the same old story that they used in the 1800&#8242;s and that was : The only good indian was a dead indian&#8230;&#8230;..just ask any of my Native American Indian relatives in South Dakota.</p>
<p>As a paper boy in 1941 our route manage got me out of bed at about ten p.m. on December 7, 1941 and said:  Here are some extra papers.  You have to go to your route right now and call out:  &#8220;EXTRA, EXTRA, READ ALL ABOUT IT-THE JAPS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR.&#8221; From that day forward we were brained washed to hell and back.  The newspapers, radio and the weekly &#8220;movie-tone&#8221; news at our local movie theater show war movies.  When we saw dead G.I.&#8217;s floating on the beaches of Tarawa and other islands, lots of people jumped out of their seats and called out&#8230;&#8230;kill them all, and the same went when we saw G.I.&#8217;s floating on the beaches of Normandy.  When we seen the civillians jump to their death at Suicide Cliffs on Saipan we cheered to no end.  Again: &#8220;Kill all of them.&#8221;</p>
<p>In 1949 my brother came home from occupied Japan and could speak Japanese fluent, so I learned the language.  In 1952 I met a &#8220;Jap&#8221; girl in a local night club in Akron, Ohio.  We started dating and we fell in love, but she had to go back to Japan and marry a man she never met as it was their custom.</p>
<p>During that time I realized that the American Government was a bunch of no good lier&#8217;s.  Most all people on earth are good but we have some bad ones in all races.  </p>
<p>In 1973 I was still living in American, Samoa and I hired some fellow photographers from Los Angeles, CA; to work with me on another film project for PBS.  Later I found out that one of the young men was from Germany.  WOW&#8230;&#8230;..a Nazi&#8230;..His father was a submarine commander and survived the war. I overcame that hatred and we are still good friends today and we email often.</p>
<p>When the war was over I delivered papers and the headlines read: &#8220;THE JAPS SURRENDER.&#8221;</p>
<p>I just watched the invasion of Saipan on TV and seen a lady jump, and others coming out of caves.  One lady said that they were afraid of the G.I.&#8217;s and that they would rather die than surrender.  Sounds like the Japanese were brain-washed to hell and back like the Americans.</p>
<p>This bull-crap is still going on over in the Middle-East&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;I know as I was in Iran, Iraq and Lebanon.</p>
<p>In closing, I do not use the word when I speak of Japan today, but I do use it when I speak about WW-II.</p>
<p>Go live WW-II like I did then you will understand.</p>
<p>RJW<br />
&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:19:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sure those warm words will be much appreciated by the several veterans who sometimes frequent this website. Thank you Ruthie.</description>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/08/the-submerged-sherman-tank-off-saipan/comment-page-1/#comment-34566</link>
		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wish I&#039;d gone out to clamber on it myself, when I was there. Had a great holiday there when I went too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish I&#8217;d gone out to clamber on it myself, when I was there. Had a great holiday there when I went too.</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Epic. Love it! Thanks for sharing.</description>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
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		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing, thanks for sharing Claudia! Do you know that history- is the same as the ones explained above in the comments?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing, thanks for sharing Claudia! Do you know that history- is the same as the ones explained above in the comments?</p>
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