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	<description>a Ruins Explorer and SF / Fantasy Author in Japan</description>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/02/akihabara-maids/comment-page-1/#comment-34569</link>
		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your thoughts- I hardly feel now like the girls are being degraded. I guess its all just good fun, brightly lit and above board. Primarily cute.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your thoughts- I hardly feel now like the girls are being degraded. I guess its all just good fun, brightly lit and above board. Primarily cute.</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/02/akihabara-maids/comment-page-1/#comment-34568</link>
		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 08:22:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never knew that Keiko, thanks for the info. No one has yet complained about the photos I&#039;ve posted, but if they ever do- I guess I&#039;ll quickly take the photos down. And I don&#039;t do that kind of candid photography anymore, so no ongoing concern. 
And yes, about the cafe telling them to not get photographed- that makes sense when they&#039;re making money from photos. 

Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never knew that Keiko, thanks for the info. No one has yet complained about the photos I&#8217;ve posted, but if they ever do- I guess I&#8217;ll quickly take the photos down. And I don&#8217;t do that kind of candid photography anymore, so no ongoing concern.<br />
And yes, about the cafe telling them to not get photographed- that makes sense when they&#8217;re making money from photos. </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your knowledge on this!</p>
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		<title>By: Keiko</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/02/akihabara-maids/comment-page-1/#comment-34498</link>
		<dc:creator>Keiko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 02:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I know, the cafe told them to stay away from being photographed, mainly because the cafe provides a service where customer must pay for taking a photograph of maid. It&#039;s quite strict that they only allow the photo to be taken with a polaroid camera owned by the cafe. 

One more thing, if you still stay in Japan, you should be cautious when posting a portrait photograph on a website. Unlike other country, under Japan&#039;s law, the person in portrait can sue you if you posted his/her photo without permission even if you take the photo in public area. 

Personally, I think Japanese is pretty paranoid when it comes to photography.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I know, the cafe told them to stay away from being photographed, mainly because the cafe provides a service where customer must pay for taking a photograph of maid. It&#8217;s quite strict that they only allow the photo to be taken with a polaroid camera owned by the cafe. </p>
<p>One more thing, if you still stay in Japan, you should be cautious when posting a portrait photograph on a website. Unlike other country, under Japan&#8217;s law, the person in portrait can sue you if you posted his/her photo without permission even if you take the photo in public area. </p>
<p>Personally, I think Japanese is pretty paranoid when it comes to photography.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, my gf lashed atthe maids
saying that they do that job
out ofnecessity... I dont agree:

If the maid job was degrading 
I am sure would command a &quot;degrading&quot; 
premium as MOST jobs in developed countries do.
BUT 
if you do some reserch and check the hourly salaries ???
of?maid versus the  say STARBUCKS (800 JPY)... 
surprise surprise:

JAPAN AVERAGE SALARY :
in a maid cafe : 800 to 1200 JPY per hour
in food service establishment: 1030 JPY (2006)

I just visited maidcafe twice
one time it was wonderful and theother was boring.

I say let-s respect the men and women who do like doing that job.
I do not understand why quite number of foreing girls feel so jealous and feel
so self righteous about criticizing that akiba lolita gothic kawaii culture.
 
No, maid cafe it is not a more degrading job than starbucks.
And yes,?it is a popular job, and  it requires some EQ skills to be a good maid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, my gf lashed atthe maids<br />
saying that they do that job<br />
out ofnecessity&#8230; I dont agree:</p>
<p>If the maid job was degrading<br />
I am sure would command a &#8220;degrading&#8221;<br />
premium as MOST jobs in developed countries do.<br />
BUT<br />
if you do some reserch and check the hourly salaries ???<br />
of?maid versus the  say STARBUCKS (800 JPY)&#8230;<br />
surprise surprise:</p>
<p>JAPAN AVERAGE SALARY :<br />
in a maid cafe : 800 to 1200 JPY per hour<br />
in food service establishment: 1030 JPY (2006)</p>
<p>I just visited maidcafe twice<br />
one time it was wonderful and theother was boring.</p>
<p>I say let-s respect the men and women who do like doing that job.<br />
I do not understand why quite number of foreing girls feel so jealous and feel<br />
so self righteous about criticizing that akiba lolita gothic kawaii culture.</p>
<p>No, maid cafe it is not a more degrading job than starbucks.<br />
And yes,?it is a popular job, and  it requires some EQ skills to be a good maid.</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/02/akihabara-maids/comment-page-1/#comment-16663</link>
		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:26:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi anime-tl, I appreciate your comment. I didn&#039;t intend to be sexist at all, but accept the possibility I might have been by accident. 

In writing this article I assumed maid cafes were not entirely different to hostess clubs, but perhaps that is wrong, and there is no seedier side to them. In which case yes, this article would be suggesting women in service jobs were akin to prostitutes, which I can see would be degrading.

But. Surely maids in a maid cafes are not the same as a big-breasted waitress in a regular cafe. I&#039;d go to the regular cafe primarily for the food. Maid cafes are places that thrive on the master-servant goth-lolita attraction otakus feel. No-one goes for the food. Is it wholly wrong to infer some kind of sexual undertones at play here? Certainly the maids are in the business of selling their appearance, even if it goes no further. We could (cynically, sure) call that &#039;touting their wares&#039;. Doubtless they can get bonuses if they get their patrons to like them more and splash out on super-fancy omelettes or whatnot, similar to expensive champagne in hostess bars. Is it unreasonable to assume some might go further, in the hopes of making more cash?

That final step is conjecture of course, and speaks more to my opinion of what men will pay for than the nature of the women involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi anime-tl, I appreciate your comment. I didn&#8217;t intend to be sexist at all, but accept the possibility I might have been by accident. </p>
<p>In writing this article I assumed maid cafes were not entirely different to hostess clubs, but perhaps that is wrong, and there is no seedier side to them. In which case yes, this article would be suggesting women in service jobs were akin to prostitutes, which I can see would be degrading.</p>
<p>But. Surely maids in a maid cafes are not the same as a big-breasted waitress in a regular cafe. I&#8217;d go to the regular cafe primarily for the food. Maid cafes are places that thrive on the master-servant goth-lolita attraction otakus feel. No-one goes for the food. Is it wholly wrong to infer some kind of sexual undertones at play here? Certainly the maids are in the business of selling their appearance, even if it goes no further. We could (cynically, sure) call that &#8216;touting their wares&#8217;. Doubtless they can get bonuses if they get their patrons to like them more and splash out on super-fancy omelettes or whatnot, similar to expensive champagne in hostess bars. Is it unreasonable to assume some might go further, in the hopes of making more cash?</p>
<p>That final step is conjecture of course, and speaks more to my opinion of what men will pay for than the nature of the women involved.</p>
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		<title>By: anime_tl</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/02/akihabara-maids/comment-page-1/#comment-16615</link>
		<dc:creator>anime_tl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 05:06:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>man, its akihabara. You knew what is was before you went there. why writing filled with prejudice? 

&quot;Perhaps they are embarrassed by what they do, and don’t want to be seen in their professional gear touting their wares on the street.&quot;

&quot;but I don’t doubt it can and does happen somewhat. Plenty of otaku have cash, and plenty of young women want it.&quot;

&quot;Decked out in frilly French maid outfits, wide-eyed and gushingly friendly to perps, they prey on the nerdy ‘otaku’ that inhabit Akiba’s warren of back-streets like level 3 kobolds in a beginner dungeon.&quot;

You basically just degraded all women. They&#039;re doing a job. period. So the girl with the big breasts at your local  restaurant that Im sure you tip a little more(when you&#039;re not in japan of course) is wrong too?  You knew what it was before you went there. Some people Im sure that visit this site have never been there as you and I have. Why describe it so incredibly sexist and be very degrading to the women that do work there.

That&#039;s not a very journalistic point of view. I enjoy this site a lot... but MJG this was absolutely your worse piece or &quot;reporting&quot; ever. Your approach would have maybe been applicable 30 years ago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man, its akihabara. You knew what is was before you went there. why writing filled with prejudice? </p>
<p>&#8220;Perhaps they are embarrassed by what they do, and don’t want to be seen in their professional gear touting their wares on the street.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;but I don’t doubt it can and does happen somewhat. Plenty of otaku have cash, and plenty of young women want it.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Decked out in frilly French maid outfits, wide-eyed and gushingly friendly to perps, they prey on the nerdy ‘otaku’ that inhabit Akiba’s warren of back-streets like level 3 kobolds in a beginner dungeon.&#8221;</p>
<p>You basically just degraded all women. They&#8217;re doing a job. period. So the girl with the big breasts at your local  restaurant that Im sure you tip a little more(when you&#8217;re not in japan of course) is wrong too?  You knew what it was before you went there. Some people Im sure that visit this site have never been there as you and I have. Why describe it so incredibly sexist and be very degrading to the women that do work there.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not a very journalistic point of view. I enjoy this site a lot&#8230; but MJG this was absolutely your worse piece or &#8220;reporting&#8221; ever. Your approach would have maybe been applicable 30 years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/02/akihabara-maids/comment-page-1/#comment-2193</link>
		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 15:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lionel- I checked that out, very interesting, thanks for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lionel- I checked that out, very interesting, thanks for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: lionel</title>
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		<dc:creator>lionel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 04:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you like maids, try the Akiba Refresh Club. the maids will play Wii with you! he..he..
http://japansugoi.com/wordpress/akihabara-maid-refresh-club-from-candy-fruits/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you like maids, try the Akiba Refresh Club. the maids will play Wii with you! he..he..<br />
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		<title>By: Bouncing Red Ball &#187; A ride through Tokyo Metropolitan Bayshore Route</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bouncing Red Ball &#187; A ride through Tokyo Metropolitan Bayshore Route</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] have a Toyota ist and a Canon 5D Mark II, what do you do? Drive to Akihabara and take pictures of maid girls, right? Well, that&#8217;s a possibility. But some guys just mount their 5D on video mode and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] have a Toyota ist and a Canon 5D Mark II, what do you do? Drive to Akihabara and take pictures of maid girls, right? Well, that&#8217;s a possibility. But some guys just mount their 5D on video mode and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: MJG</title>
		<link>http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/02/akihabara-maids/comment-page-1/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>MJG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 02:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loco- Cheers bud, and very interested in the hotels you mention in Gunma- thanks for thinking of me. I&#039;ve been to a few things up there, but not hotels. Will gratefully receive photos at michaeljohngrist@hotmail.com. Cheers!

David- Cheers, and yeah, it&#039;s awkward, but makes for an interesting study afterwards. 

Alice- True, they are kind of asking for it by being out there in costume. I felt a bit stalkerish a few times, especially once shooting a girl who turned away when she saw my lens, I repositioned, she turned back then turned away again. I walked away from her without a shot, too uncomfortable to continue &#039;hunting&#039; her like that. Will we see Britney on these pages? Ha, probably not :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loco- Cheers bud, and very interested in the hotels you mention in Gunma- thanks for thinking of me. I&#8217;ve been to a few things up there, but not hotels. Will gratefully receive photos at <a href="mailto:michaeljohngrist@hotmail.com">michaeljohngrist@hotmail.com</a>. Cheers!</p>
<p>David- Cheers, and yeah, it&#8217;s awkward, but makes for an interesting study afterwards. </p>
<p>Alice- True, they are kind of asking for it by being out there in costume. I felt a bit stalkerish a few times, especially once shooting a girl who turned away when she saw my lens, I repositioned, she turned back then turned away again. I walked away from her without a shot, too uncomfortable to continue &#8216;hunting&#8217; her like that. Will we see Britney on these pages? Ha, probably not <img src='http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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