Comments on: Ashiodozan 2. Mine and Power Plant http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/ a Ruins Explorer and SF / Fantasy Author in Japan Wed, 08 Feb 2012 23:20:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: dunkane http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-13114 dunkane Mon, 09 Aug 2010 13:01:29 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-13114 hello michael, i really like your pictures, but i'm not writing you for this, i would like to know if in your "picture trip", you saw somes old landcruiser toyota ? why ? , because we are a national association (www.serie4.fr), which is trying to revival somes old toyota landcruiser truck and parts. so if one day you see a poor old toyota truck , call me or email me please ! i'll be the happiest guy of the world !! best regards dunkane www.serie4.fr dunkane@serie4.fr 00 33 6 11 11 99 76 please send me email to confirm you read this email :) hello michael, i really like your pictures, but i’m not writing you for this, i would like to know if in your “picture trip”, you saw somes old landcruiser toyota ?
why ? , because we are a national association (www.serie4.fr), which is trying to revival somes old toyota landcruiser truck and parts.

so if one day you see a poor old toyota truck , call me or email me please !
i’ll be the happiest guy of the world !!

best regards
dunkane
http://www.serie4.fr
dunkane@serie4.fr
00 33 6 11 11 99 76

please send me email to confirm you read this email :)

]]> By: MJG http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-11614 MJG Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:12:17 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-11614 Florian- I`ve been `caught` a few times, but nothing resulted from it. Once at Osarizawa mine a tour guide from Mitsubishi tried to get us to pay the tour fee and ride with him on the tour bus. At Ashio a security guy saw us leaving and just said- `you shouldn`t be in here`. We agreed, and left. At Kappa Pia, which was more a construction site than a haikyo, the workers came over and told us to leave. I`ve not yet encountered police in a haikyo. If they were to get involved, I think it would be at sites that are still `live` to some extent. Then, right, who knows. If it`s private property the owner still actively cares about, I suppose they can prosecute. It`s one reason I avoid live sites. Also because if they`re live, they`re not really abandoned. As long as they`re abandoned, I don`t feel like I`m doing anything wrong. An example- I recently found a bowling alley that is shut down. It shut down very recently, but access to the inside would be easy. However I get the feeling the owners are not done with it. They might come back and re-open at some point. To go in there and `explore` would not feel right, would in fact feel criminal. Compare that to the Toyo Boru, which has clearly been written off and is in ruins. This doesn`t answer your question about punishment though. Does anybody else know about that more specifically? Florian- I`ve been `caught` a few times, but nothing resulted from it. Once at Osarizawa mine a tour guide from Mitsubishi tried to get us to pay the tour fee and ride with him on the tour bus. At Ashio a security guy saw us leaving and just said- `you shouldn`t be in here`. We agreed, and left. At Kappa Pia, which was more a construction site than a haikyo, the workers came over and told us to leave.

I`ve not yet encountered police in a haikyo. If they were to get involved, I think it would be at sites that are still `live` to some extent. Then, right, who knows. If it`s private property the owner still actively cares about, I suppose they can prosecute. It`s one reason I avoid live sites. Also because if they`re live, they`re not really abandoned. As long as they`re abandoned, I don`t feel like I`m doing anything wrong.

An example- I recently found a bowling alley that is shut down. It shut down very recently, but access to the inside would be easy. However I get the feeling the owners are not done with it. They might come back and re-open at some point. To go in there and `explore` would not feel right, would in fact feel criminal. Compare that to the Toyo Boru, which has clearly been written off and is in ruins.

This doesn`t answer your question about punishment though. Does anybody else know about that more specifically?

]]> By: Florian http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-11613 Florian Wed, 10 Mar 2010 03:37:15 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-11613 The legal aspect is actually kind of interesting... Does anybody know about it? How is trespassing handled in Japan? Different punishment for foreigners? How do you react when you get caught by security or even police? The legal aspect is actually kind of interesting… Does anybody know about it? How is trespassing handled in Japan? Different punishment for foreigners? How do you react when you get caught by security or even police?

]]> By: MJG http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-11612 MJG Wed, 10 Mar 2010 02:30:05 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-11612 Stanley- good call, thanks. Furward- I`m interested to hear how you entered the mine without having to climb a fence. Is the fence gone, were the gates open, or did you manage to find another way round? I wondered about dropping down into the gulley and climbing up the other side, but that hardly classifies as just walking in. As for being in love with the image of adventurer, perhaps if I was Ranulph Fiennes or Bear Grylles we might be able to make that claim. As is, the best I could call myself is an `explorer` who occasionally has mild adventures. About deportation- it has crossed my mind, but only in regard to a few haikyo- chiefly the US Air Force Base, and Gunkanjima. Most others I think are fine. Stanley- good call, thanks.

Furward- I`m interested to hear how you entered the mine without having to climb a fence. Is the fence gone, were the gates open, or did you manage to find another way round? I wondered about dropping down into the gulley and climbing up the other side, but that hardly classifies as just walking in. As for being in love with the image of adventurer, perhaps if I was Ranulph Fiennes or Bear Grylles we might be able to make that claim. As is, the best I could call myself is an `explorer` who occasionally has mild adventures.

About deportation- it has crossed my mind, but only in regard to a few haikyo- chiefly the US Air Force Base, and Gunkanjima. Most others I think are fine.

]]> By: furward http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-11611 furward Wed, 10 Mar 2010 01:53:21 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-11611 There is another way to get into the mine in your picture above. It bypasses the trespassing and the breaking and entering. You can just walk right in there... no razor wire, no fences. There are bears in Ashio however... I used to enjoy haikyo (i'm particularly interested in mines) but now i've got a visa it's just not worth the risk of deportation...doesn't it bother you? I guess it doesn't. You're clearly in love with you adventurer image too much! Cheers R There is another way to get into the mine in your picture above. It bypasses the trespassing and the breaking and entering. You can just walk right in there… no razor wire, no fences. There are bears in Ashio however…

I used to enjoy haikyo (i’m particularly interested in mines) but now i’ve got a visa it’s just not worth the risk of deportation…doesn’t it bother you? I guess it doesn’t. You’re clearly in love with you adventurer image too much!

Cheers R

]]> By: Stanley W. wilson http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-10722 Stanley W. wilson Sat, 19 Dec 2009 18:54:54 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-10722 "What does this symbol mean?" I believe that that is the logo of the Ingersol Rand company, makers of industrial compressors. “What does this symbol mean?”
I believe that that is the logo of the Ingersol Rand company, makers of industrial compressors.

]]> By: MJG http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-1609 MJG Thu, 15 Jan 2009 10:30:32 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-1609 Alice- Thanks- I love doing this kind of discovery, and learning real local history I can reach out and touch- glad you like it too. Locohama- Great comment, thanks a lot- I don't often put myself into the photos or the site, but that one, taken without my knowledge, I just dig for what it is. You just need a person standing there, doesn't matter that it was me. Kuroneko- Good call, nice dating skills. Jean Rob- Very gracious sir, and thanks for link. Aino- Good question- I can tell you it's probably not a residence, that it's likely an office- I suppose part of the operation that is currently demolishing/refurbishing some of the factory. Alice- Thanks- I love doing this kind of discovery, and learning real local history I can reach out and touch- glad you like it too.

Locohama- Great comment, thanks a lot- I don’t often put myself into the photos or the site, but that one, taken without my knowledge, I just dig for what it is. You just need a person standing there, doesn’t matter that it was me.

Kuroneko- Good call, nice dating skills.

Jean Rob- Very gracious sir, and thanks for link.

Aino- Good question- I can tell you it’s probably not a residence, that it’s likely an office- I suppose part of the operation that is currently demolishing/refurbishing some of the factory.

]]> By: Aino http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-1606 Aino Thu, 15 Jan 2009 04:56:59 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-1606 what's with the pink house in the last picture? what’s with the pink house in the last picture?

]]> By: Jean Rob http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-1593 Jean Rob Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:27:51 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-1593 Kuroneko is right. http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/images/Advertising%20Page/fob-ingersoll1.JPG Check out the top left corner. Thanks for the correction ;) Kuroneko is right.
http://www.gasolinealleyantiques.com/images/Advertising%20Page/fob-ingersoll1.JPG
Check out the top left corner.

Thanks for the correction ;)

]]> By: Kuroneko http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/2009/01/ashiodozan-ghost-town-3-power-hub-and-mine-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-1589 Kuroneko Mon, 12 Jan 2009 00:48:17 +0000 http://www.michaeljohngrist.com/?p=1099#comment-1589 The symbol on the gen-set is 'IR' - for Ingersoll Rand. The maker of this generator. It dates from about 1910 I think. The symbol on the gen-set is ‘IR’ – for Ingersoll Rand. The maker of this generator. It dates from about 1910 I think.

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